Summary
Black Box Online Radio had a Michael Cole interview as part of its regular Zodiac Mondays segment. The majority of the interview was released on Monday, June 9, 2025. The remainder of the interview will be released on June 16. Host Ned Dehan and Michael discussed a wide-range of topics, including: how Michael became interested in the case of the Zodiac, what writing The Zodiac Revisited was like, the Southern California pre-canonical crimes, why Michael is convinced the Zodiac did NOT live in Vallejo, radians, Kathleen Johns, and more. Be sure to check out the interview and consider subscribing to Black Box Online Radio.
By the way, Ned also interviewed Michael back in 2021 as part of the “Interviews with the Experts” series. Unfortunately, the YouTube channel on which that interview appeared has since been shut down. See this Interviews with the Experts for a few more details.
Michael Cole Interview
Ned Dehan
Ned Dehan is the host of the Black Box Online Radio YouTube channel, which publishes true-crime content several times a week. Regular segments include Zodiac Monday, Ripper Wednesday (Jack the Ripper, of course), and Cooper Friday (D.B. Cooper). He also manages to squeeze in some other segments that deal with more general true crime. Ned is the author of Killer on a White Horse, a set of stories available in audio format on YouTube.
What Listeners Are Saying...
@6strings735
“For me, this is by far the most interesting description of the case. I love the reference to geometry, angles, as well as the idea that the killer developed his persona along the way.”
@fifteen8
“This is a great interview. I agree with most of what he says, and he articulates things I’ve thought but haven’t heard others say.”
@quentinbroom5844
“Great stuff! Fits together very well. This was the zodiac scientific. Very plotting. Makes sense. He stayed far away so no one knew him in the area of crimes. Kudos! Mr. Cole has put it together!”
